Crowdsource Top Tier Writing Hits

Discussion in 'Requesters' started by jbird7, Nov 2, 2012.

  1. HappyFish

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    I printed out the rules for each of the different job types and keep them on a rolodex-type flip board. When I'm working on something, I just flip to the right one so I can reference the rules easily. I highly suggest it.
     
  2. Granny56

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    They are apparently rejecting now more than they used to. This sort of scares me a bit. A few rejections from them can impact your overall MTurk stats. I try to double-check the directions for each article I write and then recheck them before I submit. I can edit also, and I won't anymore - there are a lot of editors getting work rejected. Someone on another forum called them out on it (repeatedly and quite rudely) and they revoked all of her qualifications. Proceed with caution.
     
  3. HappyFish

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    Can you PM me a link to that discussion?
     
  4. amberkshire

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    From what I was told on another forum from a CS admin (or whatever they're called), rejection just flags it to go to the admin to review. Since the editors can reject, they want to make sure it was done accurately. I mentioned that it would be nice to be able to redo work if you get a rejection. She said they are taking that into consideration. We'll see...
     
  5. Granny56

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    I think some people were getting actual rejections on the final review hits. The reject button on the editing hits was explained, but some people got actual rejections for their work from CS. At one point CS was overturning the rejections, but I think that stopped. I have noted while editing and writing callouts that many people do not follow the guidelines - and CS always paid, which is great. Maybe they are going to start buckling down - who knows. So far they have been very fair to me. I don't agree with the way people were reacting on the other forum. It is kind of childish. I feel lucky to have gotten the qualifications.
     
  6. glitter

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    If you have any questions, either email them or leave extra feedback in the HIT itself. Now that we're in a testing period, I've included extra feedback on virtually all of my HITs.

    Don't guess at any of the rules that are confusing. Either explain why you did what you did, or if it's something big, email them before doing any more. If they see that you're trying, they reward you.

    I've emailed them loads of time: sometimes it led to a bonus, sometimes it led to a change in the HIT rules, and sometimes it didn't really do anything except prevent me from making mistakes in the future.
     
  7. HappyFish

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    I ask questions when I have them and rarely receive a response. Emails generally go unanswered as well. I think a lot of the confusion about this new system comes because of term "reject," which clearly has very bad connotations on turk. I have no problems with terrible work getting rejected, and some of the work I see is terrible. If both the editor and I agree an article should be rejected, the writer probably shouldn't be getting paid. However, many times I do "final review" HITs and catch only one or two errors. I'd feel a lot better if the button was labeled "Needs further editing" instead of "REJECT."

    Also, the original editor should be able to restart their edit if it comes back to fix the last couple errors.
     
  8. Granny56

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    HappyFish, I agree that there should be some mechanism for the worker to fix their mistakes. Even the writer should have a chance to clean up an article if it involves too much editing. IMO that is how we learn. I have edited some articles that didn't use the keyword at all, that had to be rewritten in several places and that had future tense in just about every sentence - leaving feedback doesn't make the impact that having to fix it yourself does.
     
  9. HappyFish

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    Totally agree. The biggest problem with CS is the lack of feedback about errors. When I "failed" (got Junior instead) the editor test, I asked what I did wrong. They responded that it wouldn't be fair to the other people taking the test if I knew. OK, but how am I supposed to improve if I have no clue what the issue was? Good editors aren't born, they have to learn like everybody else. *shrug* I would be much happier with a system that would "return" a rejected job to the creator and allow them to correct it (for maybe 48 hours, then it goes to somebody else or whatever happens now).
     
  10. TurtleTape

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    Holy alcoholism articles, Batman.
     
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    You are completely right here. As an high school English teacher, I can tell you that when I leave feedback but don't make the kids redo it, they don't really care or try to improve. When I make them redo it, that's where the learning takes place.

    I emailed CS and let a CS admin know on a different site that it would be nice if we were able to correct rejected articles, even if it's for lesser pay.

    Also, it was mentioned that sometimes editors have to practically rewrite an article. For 2 bucks...not sure it's worth it when someone else already got $11 to write it like crap.
     
  12. Blaize

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    I'm loving these :D Considering writing about addiction is the only thing I'm doing with my LCDC right now... I'll take em.
     
  13. TurtleTape

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    I'd feel better about doing them if they were approving articles regularly, I have $136 pending right now from them >.>
     
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    Any editors out there...how quickly are your editing HITs being approved? I've been stuck on my "probationary" 10 for a week. I would try those seemingly never-ending link articles if I ever got my limit lifted.
     
  15. TurtleTape

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    Everything I've seen is that there is a huge, huge backlog of editing hits waiting to be approved. Well, if all else fails, I know my articles should start auto approving come Sunday. Naturally, that's five days after rent is due.
     
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    Yeah I want to get the top tier qual, but it is already like 2 months overdue from the time they said they would hire new writers. What a rip.
     
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    I'm a brand-new editor. I did my first editing HITs on the 25th and just got two out of three responded to today - both "approved" in terms of mturk, but rejected in terms of Crowdsource's standards, which was a huge blow to the editing self-esteem. I've completed several over the last five days, and I'm pretty worried now! I'm hoping they don't revoke my qualification and I get a chance to learn from my mistakes. I received much more negative feedback regarding grammar on the editing HITs than I ever have on my own articles, which is interesting. So far, I've found that the editing expected is pretty extensive - frankly, more work than $2 is worth.

    I'm really glad to have the opportunity to work for Crowdsource, but their HITs stress me out so much! I hope the regular 300-word writing HITs come back soon, because I'm clearly a much better writer than I am an editor.
     
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    I hear you. I got two recipe edit HITs reviewed with "your work has been flagged." Talk about stressful! It's pretty harsh, especially for $2.
     
  19. pieper

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    I am frustrated as well; all of my edits were approved for payment last week; however, apparently they have not been "edited" by the "editors" (double-work, right?) so my limits have not been limited. This is going into the second week of "You will be eligible for these as soon as your work is approved. Check back soon." or something to that ilk.

    I like to do editing hits BUT I agree that the editor should NOT have to rewrite an article, the author should make those corrections.

    And, someone earlier said they can write an article in less than an hour? What was I doing wrong - it was taking me up to 3 hours, after researching, writing and proofreading the hell out of it. Just curious.
     
  20. amberkshire

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    I usually get my articles written in about 30 minutes. I think we're just all different. I am an English major (secondary English Education actually), so maybe I just wrote a ton in college for practice??? LOL

    I found the ****'S articles for $9 to be fun to write. Too bad you can only do one at a time.
     

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