Damn you guys turn on Rubin quick. From the times he got, this is still a good deal. If he would have offered them at this price from the very beginning, nobody would have said a word. No one complained when he dropped the $1 hits last week. He's just going by .1/min that we like to see. He was getting a lot of shit results (probably not from this forum, but still) and I don't blame him for dropping the price. Why pay for shit work? I don't like the pay decrease, of course, but it's not that big of a deal.
You really shouldn't be trashing him. It's all about sustainability and work quality, and at the old pay rates, the work was just not sustainable in the long-run for him. On top of that, low-quality work, regardless if it was from you guys or from other people, justifies some action on his end. Although I believe there are other options, such as a qualification system or tests, this isn't the worse choice he could have made for everyone. What if he went back to masters? That would be even worse. He was paying between double and triple of the $0.10/min standard, which was great, and everyone made some a nice chunk of change. Now, he's cutting it down to $0.10/min, and everyone is outraged. Instead of being mad at the requester for cutting pay to the standard, likely for financial reasons, or worker-related issues, you should be grateful that he even posts. I know that I'm going to get flack for saying this, but he spoiled us. Now, we're back to being the normal kids on the block. You still can make $6 an hour, if not more, so there really is no reason to complain. You can even link this to supply/demand, with a few modifications. Let's make supply the pay rate, and work quality the demand. As the work quality (demand) plummets, the supply (pay) is going to have to fall, so that people (Rubin) can maintain quality results. This isn't really supply and demand, but that's how it worked out in my head.
No offense, but I couldn't disagree with you more. If he's getting shitty results, he could maybe, just MAYBE instate a qual like multiple people have told him to over and over. Do you seriously think this is because of poor work? If that were the case, he would stop using mturk. Why would you just pay cheaper for work you know is gonna be crap? Come on now. The poor work is just an excuse. It doesn't matter that if he had offered them at this no one would complain. When you sign on to a job, and do it for weeks, you get accustomed to a certain pay. It's wrong to change that on people who are doing the exact same amount of work in the exact same way. It's dishonest. Piss off, Matt Rubin. Have fun with scammers submitting you shit work. If he was sooo worried about quality control, he could, GOD FORBID, reject the poor work.
What kind of shitty labor force does this country have if we're supposed to be happy that our benevolent overlords still offer us jobs, even though they pay 33%-40% less than literally the day before for the exact same work? If this was any other place except mturk, anyone but a moron would get pissed at this. Just because it's mturk doesn't really change it that much, though - it functions as a normal job for MANY of us. Which is why Rubin's Christmas cuts are bullshit.
Matt Rubin is not the only work available on mTurk and no one is forcing you to do his work. Your resistance is futile.
I consider this a job, but you have to realize that the same standards don't apply. If you want to complain about this, feel free to start a turker's union, but don't come to me to help. Amazon can just as easily shut down mTurk, leaving all of us scrambling to find other places. I know I'm being rude now, but you have to be practical. People are still going to work on them, until the pay rate is below $0.10/min, because the money is still needed. I don't have to rely solely on mTurk, but I could still use the money, and therefore, I'm still going to work on his HITs.
LOL. You sound just like those morons who say "if you don't want to work for minimum wage/X amount of hours, just quit!" I'm glad that you're privileged enough to have the option to just not do certain types of work. When you say resistance is futile, what you're really saying is that you've completely given up on thinking that workers ought to have any kinds of rights or reasonable expectations at all. Awesome.
I don't think you're being rude. The exact point that I'm trying to make IS that the money is still needed, and people WILL still work for them down to the point where they are almost useless because worker's don't have any way to push back when this stuff happens. And if you try to wait it out, well the company that's paying you can wait a hell of a lot longer.
I work in medical records at my real job and there is actually a team that just tracks hospital visits, doctors and dates... and believe you me its a lot easier and they get paid A WHOLE LOT more. So to say that Rubin is offering a fair price for the actual work is pretty delusional. But... as far as MTurk standards go... it is not bad even at the lowered price. #RealityCheck
So when I try to open a Rubin hit my browser (chrome) keeps giving me this message NoSuchBucketThe specified bucket does not existwww.mturkcontent.com has this happened to anybody else? Or any ideas on how to fix it?
I don't really see the relevance. If you can't support an argument without tying it in to some personal bit of info about my work, I don't think it's that strong in the first place.
Guys, To each their own. We have all stated our opinions, and I think it's time to move on. I know I involved myself in the debate, but I don't feel that we should continue it, especially in this thread. Back to making that money!
Speaking of Rubins... been working on the list of schools for this batch and I'm constantly updating it http://mturkforum.com/showthread.php?5463-Resources-for-Course-Listing-HITs/page2
It's completely relevant if you are willing to do more work for less money. I am just checking your hypocrisy level.